Woah so is this why mine is popping out a little bit? The screw is loose? Dang!

So I am having the issue with the Stern Armor where the foil is losing color in a spot from the oil in my hands. I did search the thread a bit to find that replacement card stock can be ordered off Amazon but I was wondering how it attaches for the people who have replaced it? Also did anyone go with any other color than gold and do you have a picture you can post?

Thanks

ps. Is this a good replacement material?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L1M9GVF/ref=ewc_pr_img_1

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That stuff will do just fine. I had my armor powder coated and had to remove the card stock. It's just held in place with a few pieces of double sided tape. Easy to remove. Amazon also has multi color packs if you want to play around with the different colors.

An afterthought: perhaps you could have the replacement cards laminated to prevent future wear? Hmmmm

Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it!

I think a layer of mylar would protect it. And don't we all have mylar?

Excellent point!

I believe that there was a design change to the halo flippers a while back. the cut-out section is a bit smaller, leaving more material on the flipper itself. on the original design, the [hole] extended further to the tip than on the current flippers that he sells

Yeah, I saw a post in another thread and they were redesigned. I have them install on my EHOH, no issues at all and they make a BIG difference!

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That looks amazing with the gears and reels

Thank You

I highly recommend them, I actually had to turn down the coils to the flippers after I installed them.

But now go and play on the flippers at your local pub... ready to flip those crappy Stern flippers yet? Having these on your machine makes playing on YOUR machine nice, but does this make you a better player or does this just prop up your high scores? I have never though we needed to go farther with "precision" than what we will have to eventually play on in tourney. Play on crappy flippers at home makes me good at crappy (and the most common) flippers in tournament. I don't need my scores propped up, I need consitancy and although looking to "make more precise" is a championable goal, I just don't see the NEED for them on my machines if the machines are preparing me for play on Standard Stern Flippers, WMS flippers, WPC era flippers, etc... for tournament play. You got a one machine collection, then make yourself happy, this may be your cup of tea. But I keep my machines pretty stock on the flipper side of things. Would you put these on a wedgehead?!?

I don't think these flippers make me a better player at all, they just feel more responsive.

There is absolutely no need for them on Any Stern.

The over advertising and pushing of these “precision flippers” on EVERY thread is rather annoying.

Also applies to every mod that starts with the word “pin-“. Too many burner accounts trying to push these mods, it’s annoying.

I agree. They are not needed on Stern Pins, I just installed them on EHOH for esthetic.

Who cares, pinball is fun. If it makes it more fun at your house, fill your boots! Not many people play in tourneys, or have location pinball anywhere near them.

Disagree a bit.
I have some. I really like them. I think they are grossly overpriced.
I think if one was to just buy the bushings, they are so precise, that would take the heat off the stern flippers literally. You can turn down the power a bit on them and get better lastability if playing several long games. I have seen from time to time flipper fade on sterns.

I keep seeing random people say this. Explain to me how replacing the bats makes them feel more responsive? You aren't changing coils or any other mechs on the flipper assembly other than the bushing the pin goes through right? I think it's a mental thing, or a difference in how the ball sounds when it hits the flipper. (rubber+metal vs rubber+plastic). Plastic probably absorbs some of the energy and flexes vs the metal not flexing and returning the power.

But more responsive? Seems unlikely.

I'm not sure if it is because they weight less or the combination of them with the Super Bands... Then again, I do have the metal bushings as well. Maybe your right, maybe they do not flex as much because they are metal?

I guess you just have to try a set for yourself and judge. I just know what my take away is when I play my EHOH with them installed.

Imagine being butthurt because other people like to modify their own games to their own tastes.

Anyway…

It's gotta be the plastic flexing a bit. There is a definite different "feel" to the precision ones.

They do look good....
Reading all the comments regarding Precision Flippers reminds me of my childhood

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Every EHOH I’ve played has had the most stiff flippers in stern’s lineup. Almost like rocks clacking together. The aesthetic improvement plus some added responsiveness is a plus on that game in my book.

Since we're all sharing our opinions, I bought a set of precision flippers with bushings for my DP to try them out. Love the way they look, love the easy adjustment. They do indeed have a different feel to them that I neither like nor dislike. Just different. After playing on them for months, I'm leaving them installed on the game, but won't be buying more unless the price comes down a good bit.

My game sits at 6.8

Upper Flipper: 147
Left Flipper: 221
Right Flipper:215

I am very happy with them but I not about to replace them on all my games as they are $$$. They do go on sale though at least once a year, which is when I bought them but unfortunately that is around Christmas... A bit of a wait for anyone considering and wanting to grab them on sale.

On second thought I can’t blame the flippers for being stiff as usually I am too

The premium version of the Godzilla DMCS Animated, Interactive Backbox light kit is now available too!

The premium has similar effects as the pro version ( rising flames, streaming heatray, color cycling UFOS, etc ) and some specific updates for the premium. Since King Ghidorah is a main character on the premium version, the effects also highlight that as you will see. For more details, see the DMCS thread.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/godzilla-dmcs-mods-xilien-saucer-heatray-diverter-burning-building

Odd few contributions lately, “ I don’t like what you like, so you shouldn’t like what I don’t like” And, “your reason for playing is not like mine so you’re doing it wrong”

Settle fellas; it’s just pinball.

Assuming they are installed along with the replacement (metal) bushings, then the Precisions have almost zero slop between the shaft and bushing - this improves accuracy and I guess that could be interpreted as responsiveness.

Where did the road decal mod on the right ramp come from? I noticed it in some of the pictures but doesn't seem to be stock.

https://www.tiltgraphicsinc.com/

They’re so good. No wear on mine which was my main concern when buying. I opted not to install the shooter lane one. So awesome had to order some for my new Maiden

Thank you for the link!

Does anyone know how to shut off the auto update feature?

You can restrict it to a time window, I put my TMNT to a 1-minute window at like 3 or 4am when it will never be on.

I think they are worth the money for my spooky games, but haven’t felt the need to put them on a stern.

I hadn't updated since 1.3, then I did. Before the update you had the option of not automatically updating. I guess that's gone now?

Hi are these magnetic if they have adhesive they might be a pain to remove if needed? What do you think?

It's under the network settings.

They are not magnetic. No trouble removing the stickers. Any residue is handled easily by a bottle of Goo Gone.

What CapeCod said. They’re adhesive, and in my experience after a week I decided I did not want the shooter lane one, so I removed it with no issues. Seems to be high quality stuff, I wouldn’t worry about residue too tough to clean.

Anyone know how to adjust the shield ramp/spinner? Mine is clearly not aligned properly.

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So I am getting a brand new Godzilla Premium next week and I was curious about what 'must have' mods you guys would recommend? I am going to be installing art blades, shaker motor, and the Godzilla shooter knob, but I haven't decided on anything past that.

Get you a sheet of Voodoo glass

https://cointaker.com/products/voodoo-glass-1-piece

stumblor has great Mods

https://stumblorpinball.com/collections/godzilla-mods-by-stumblor-pinball

Here is a great topper

https://www.teppinball.com/store/p/gz-b1-owl

Contact Spiderpin for his full plastic protector set.

Get you a sheet of Voodoo glass

https://cointaker.com/products/voodoo-glass-1-piece
stumblor has great Mods

https://stumblorpinball.com/collections/godzilla-mods-by-stumblor-pinball

Here is a great topper

https://www.teppinball.com/store/p/gz-b1-owl

Contact Spiderpin for his full plastic protector set.

How does Voodoo matchup against the Stern HD? It’s not much cheaper.

They are very, very similar and I think there's a thread somewhere that does a full comparison. I have the invisi glass on all my machines and recommend it.

The Voodoo glass is better. I have both and Invisi, the Stern HD glass is the worst of the 3.

One of the best bangs for your buck is the Pinmonk fan replacement for the loud, crappy stock Stern Fan. depending on your individual pin, you may want the metal shooter lane skill shot fix if you can't reliably hit your skillshots. If money is no concern, get on Stumblor's list for all his great mods. It's an investment but a huge upgrade over stock. I agree on the plastic protectors. Decals are personal preference. I like the road decals for the shooter lane and rigt ramp as well as filpper bat covers. Invisiglass or equivalent is a great upgrade. Switch out the balls on day 1. Some will say the flipper coils then also.

Like VisitorQ I too have had all three from either LE (Stern) or CE (JJP) shipping with the game. I have personally taken them out and sold them to use Voodoo. For me, it works best in my two gameroom locations, no window dark room, and overflow into a room which has windows covering two walls along with modern ceiling lighting.

I have zero reflection and clearsite of all action. I also really like the extra effort in showing a lab analysis done.

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Well shit, I might as well try out a Voodoo on my new pin next to the one with Stern HD. Thanks for the info fellas

If I put a Medieval Madness SE next to my Godzilla SE, do you think the shots and play will be too similar to really justify the cost?