I dont understand first buyers are getting moaned to.

I am greatfull you guys take the risc. I just cant afford it, and when some lads dont take riscs, pinball is all over. For them, but for me too. For every body.

Every NIB buyer should get at least a nice pint of beer from ''on route'' players like me when they meet, .

Those people will turn into f'ing crickets.

Jack just stated on the WOZ newsgroup:

"We are going to get some decent video this week for sure!"
"I don't know if anything is ever 100% with our team- LOL - they will never be "happy"."

I made my down payment in March 2012. What is with the attitude? All I have ever done to you is to invite you to play my WOZ when it arrived.

Actually, even if the game is a homerun, I think they will likely pick apart the game like accident lawyers because that is what they do

Pintucky and I are being very patient like you stargazer, he invited me to come up and play his. Complaining about the wait isn't going to pass the time any quicker. To me pinball must be done right. I welcome the wait if it means refining the end product to push it beyond "unbelievable" in the end. I'm freaking stoked.

I doubt it. These asshats just have nothing else to do. People with over 10 games in their collections bitching about a game they won't own says a lot about what they do own. Zzzzzzzz.

Wow. I may not be in the WOZ fanboy club, but I have to throw the BS flag on posts like this. To call it a train wreck is crazy talk. There is no way the people who bought in are not going to get the great quality machines they are expecting. Sure the WoZ project has been a little mismanaged and is long over due, but people like EZ E who think it is a scam and the people aren't going to get their games are just haters plain and simple.

I don't know what PPE is....but we're planning on something around middle of the month. Wanna come?)

+1 what he said

Want BS. Go watch Jack's videos on youtube.

Want BS, go watch the TF Gomez pitch trailer.

Want BS. Go watch Jack's videos on youtube.

Want BS, go watch the TF Gomez pitch trailer.

From where I'm sitting, you are both right.

Please continue.

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True, the game doesn't transform like they showed it.

There is a TF game to play, at least. If that kind of thing matters to you.

More like that tripe carnival down in Tampa.

I do!

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PM me Family. We have a small group going.

As John Mellancamp said: "You make it hurt so good."

Hah!...that's the way this thread is starting to sound....bla bla bla...

PT please don't put words in my mouth. I've pointed out when it's just pure BS. See the photo of the game with drywall screws? That was nothing, you should see the other pics! That game was a Prop. I was told I'd have my game last march. Told the test game would be out last DEC 2011. Then when I ask for a refund the guy "claims" I'm the only one. $hit he didn't know I knew 2 others canceled! Per the Ohio show jjp claimed the test game was coming may and shipping games by June. Then 13 in June and 50 in Aug. Remember? Then a few guys think a game is showing up Sept 1st. Wonder why? Don't worry you'll have the test game next week. right? The track record says it all. If JJP has over come the clear coat and playfield issue great, I wouldn't bet on it. Now the claim is the Seattle game isn't what's coming. It better not be. The Seattle playfield was JUNK if you knew what to look for. BTW JJP knows it! The guy will say ANYTHING! Pure and simple the Cult members don't like the fact for whatever reason Stern is selling better games now and JJP is stuck in Neutral!

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So, are you saying that the highly respected people who work for JJP, that have done amazing work in the pinball industry, are all idiots? Because if this is just some big shell game, like you are implying, and JJP is going to ship a highly inferior product, then they must be, right?

Seriously, how do you manage to wake up and look at yourself in the mirror every day?

I'm sorry but.......
PLEASE SHUT UP ALREADY.. Get a refund and move on! This topic is so damn old. X is good. ACDC is good. WOZ is good. Pinball as whole is FANTASTIC compared to a couple years ago.

Pass the corn...

CG, what i really love is making the pissant diatribe, then signing back in as Mrbally to give it a thumbs up. Twit (darned "A" button stuck) goes to ezsleeze

I thought it was typically against forum rules to have more than one account.

From the forum rules and guidelines:

"Only one registration is allowed per person, dual identities are not allowed. Adopting an inappropriate user id is also not allowed, and if you do pick a user id that we feel isn't acceptable, it will simply be changed to something else."

Just what we needed, an E Sleeze/Exejet wanna be, pathetic on so many levels

Every other post in this thread makes me think of...

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Your story has become tiresome und now is the time on Pinside vere ve daunce.

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I think the bla...bla...bla...factor is at about 97%....

I saw the photos of that game. Buy calling it a game you yourself acknowledge it is an actual game.

Second, I would not call that game a prop. I would call it a prototype. For a prototype I would expect to see stuff like drywall screws, duct tape, superglue, epoxy, and just about anything else it would take to get a PF made/ moved around until they like it.

I am glad to see Stern making good games. I am glad to see JJP promise to make more games. Excited to see pinball move forward.

PT please don't put words in my mouth. I've pointed out when it's just pure BS. See the photo of the game with drywall screws? That was nothing, you should see the other pics! That game was a Prop. I was told I'd have my game last march. Told the test game would be out last DEC 2011. (yawn....)

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Yeah!

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Djeez, quit the whining. Enough with the drywall screws. Who cares? It was a damn prototype. I've seen worse. Playfields that had holes drilled in them because the designers moved parts around. Can you believe that? It's called a prototype, for crying out loud. If you have credible "Evidence" that this game is far from finished, which I highly doubt, please proof it - show us your irrefutable evidence. I'm tired of all the insinuation. Jack has shown more evidence of the game progressing then you have shown of the opposite being true.

I knew it! Leave the biggest bang for the finale. I'm still hoping the "sphere" in the middle of the playfield has some kind of LCD screen under it, that would be awesome (yeah I know, keep dreaming).

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Edit: just to be clear, the above picture is just my wishful thinking!

Very very interesting. Thanks Alex and Robin. The excitement is definitely growing. Patience will pay off.

Brian

Does anyone have any info on JJ's 'OP profit sharing' idea?

I had heard that he was thinking of doing a profit sharing thing with OPS, and that they could get the game at a discounted rate. Anyone have any more info on this?

Not sure what all of that stuff above means, I only have one ID on Pinside as well as RGP.

Contact jack directly and ask him

So do you guys recommend not putting down a deposit on this one?

If the deposit was $100, I'd say go for it - but the "deposit" Jack took from everybody was 100% of the price of the game.

At this point, I'd wait and see if it comes out, and how good of a game it is.

If I recall correctly, Jack said he'll keep making WoZs as long as there's orders. That's a win-win for everybody. Unless you have to have it now, before it's out I would say wait. Everything I see says this is a winner in quality and design. The gameplay and staying power is the wildcard. Nobody knows. And unless Jack is planning to raise prices, there's little motivation (for me at least) to lock in now.

I want to support Jack and the pinball community by giving this company and first pin a fair chance. Patience is the key. They've done so much in so little time. Let the delivery date slide. We all know what delivering crap in the name of deadlines does. Patience.

I'm with vid, I'm not buying games on spec.

Well I was thinking about waiting for this one, but I was able to get a MM instead. I think I will have time to save up for this if it ever comes out. I think everyone is right though....after you've waited this long why rush it if it will really be one of the best games ever.

"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad."

-Shigeru Miyamoto

"I like your style Jackie."

The Dude

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