It's somewhat close.

GLWS

Really low sadly. You can search Ohio in the market...I wouldn't post another sale I. Your ad

Sir, you told me you accepted “wire transfer”. I’m sorry, but I’m thinking CashApp would fit that bill.

CashApp is used by millions every day to get cash to people. I’ve used it to send money to my daughter repeatedly. Honestly, I hate the damn app for that reason alone! lol

To send a message to me mentioning “ scam” simply because some people use CashApp for scamming is ridiculous. People also use PayPal, money orders, and almost everything under the sun in one way or another to scam people. That doesn’t mean that everybody does. Overwhelming majority use these services in a Levite way.

When I asked about CashApp, all you needed to do was say no.

Coming on here and attempting to assassinate my character and smear my reputation is not cool at all.

It shouldn’t be this hard to buy and sell a pinball machine.

Geeterman1 … I’m sure it’s not. I just need to find a local guy a bit closer. There is one very close to me, but he wants $1500 or so more. I think I may contact that seller anyway, though. Really not liking the attempt at smearing my name, though. This seller here needs to get a grip.

Please be sure to include my most recent response to you.

You’re making a mountain out of a damn mole hill.

It’s disgusting, frankly.

There's nothing in your messages to harm your reputation.

This only looks bad on the seller IMO.

Thank you, sir. Whether it be eBay, pinside, or life in general, our reputation is very important.

Showing up with your vehicle and slapping the cash on glass makes it very easy to buy a pinball machine.

I agree wholeheartedly. His price enticed me, though. lol But I’ll be dealing locally, if I can make deal.

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The thing that confused me was “wire transfer”. That set me to thinking of ways I could get you the money, and I knew CashApp was a popular way of getting cash to people. That’s the ONLY reason I mentioned it. I already have it and use it. It would have been easy for me.

Why be so insulting? You can tell by the way I structure the sentences that English is not my 2nd or 3rd language. You’re just coming across like a total jackals now. Seriously. Why do that? Just… why?

Seriously? You post my private messages where you call into question my honesty, hinting I may be attempting to scam you, and you did this only to help you sell your damn pinball machine? Dude, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. My god.

How about just telling me no, only cash, and then moving along with your life? Why attempt to smear me in an open forum? It’s people like you who give forums a bad name, and maybe why some of us don’t post much and seem like “ghosts” to you. Simply incredible.

Buyer seems wary of traveling or paying up front. Seller could change their mind and it’s gone before he gets there 2 1/2 hours later. Almost never happens but new buyers get nervous.

Seller is aware of endless ways folks can take a pin and not pay for it in the end. Bank wire transfer is not reversible and seller knows that. 2 1/2 hours is an easy drive and buyer knows that. Cash on glass after play testing. Best way.

Obvious this transaction won’t happen now, but in the future buyer needs to consider traveling.

I drove from NH to Oklahoma for a pin. That’s just ONE example. I’ve bought and sold quite a few.

Rent a van from Enterprise.
Drive the 2.5 hours to the seller’s location.
Give the seller the cash that you have both agreed upon.
Load the machine into the van.
Drive 2.5 hours home with your new machine.

Epic tale - Mike from Spokane, WA (selling / trading his own restored and sic Twilight Zone right now on Pinside) drove from his hometown to my house in Alaska -- in only 48 hours without stopping -- to buy my BM66 Catwoman.

I knocked $1,000 off my already low asking price just because I thought that was badass. Super good dude and neither of us has any regrets.

Just go get it if you want it - I wish I could drive 2.5 hours to find a Halloween

So this isnt Happening,Imagine You had to pay a real shipping company,add that to Your wish price and offer it to a local.
I dont Blame the seller for their reluctance to do this deal.Local is Your best option especially If You dont have a relationship with the seller to build trust.

Probably in your best interest in didn't work out Derwin. Not the best game, and people have trouble keeping it working consistently. Find a better game for your first pin.

Wow. Just wow

Actually, you messaged me that you were posting our messages to the community. You said that in a way to threaten me as if I did something wrong. My response was… go ahead… because I did nothing wrong here. All I did was suggest CashApp after you said wire transfer, thinking it was seen as the same. I now know it’s not. But for you to BLOW THIS UP in an open forum is, frankly ridiculous.

But, hey, maybe this was good after all. People are telling me that the Halloween pin sucks, so it’s probably good that this happened. I’ll focus on getting a quality machine as my first, and avoid this nightmare of a pinball machine. Good luck with your sale.

Too much drama here to make a sale.

Exactly. There was no need for this.

IBTL

Holy nuts! I honestly didn’t know that was a thing. Seriously. Well, I’ve learned a lot from this thread, so I guess it served a purpose after all. I just wish people wouldn’t jump the gun with the “scam” thing right out of the gate. That’s really the only thing that upset me.

Yeah it is. 5 hours round trip is a minor cakewalk. Enjoy the hunt for your prey. Us guys are built for this.

If this isn't enough to tell you who the problem is, I don't know what to say. It's not hard to tell the buyer, "Hey, I don't use that app. It's cash, wire or bank draft prior to ship."

Seller created the drama. I wouldn't buy his game for 6k.

I think posting a private conversation with no actual scam just to get clicks is shit. Remind me to never deal with either of these two.

I appreciate the first part of your statement, but why punish me?

That’s fair. But you DID agree to his statement to publicly post. Out of frustration and shock I’m sure. He seemed to have sidelined you with that.

With so much info available to everyone in our pockets next time check out these financial app terms. They can be surprising and seller got jittery.

In before the Sale Lock.

The fact that the buyer was willing to pay 7500 for a Halloween that's definitely a red flag to me!

Yes… exactly… but it wasn’t as if he were asking my approval. I seen it as more a threat. He TOLD me he was going to post all the messages to the community, as if I were doing something wrong.

Well, i don’t blame seller for being jittery. Cash on glass is obviously the only way to go. But I got jittery about it as well. I know now that this kind of transaction can only take place in person where cash is given and and hands on machine.

Just don’t hint that somebody is trying to scam, unless you’re damn sure about it. This was not that by any stretch.

Well, damn. I think now I’m gonna wait for this to drop to around $6,000.

It's actually not like this all the time, but if you don't know your seller, always assume extreme caution, and for good reason.

In the past, I was paid 18k in advance through internet banking in small amounts over a week before delivering a game. I knew the buyer and he knew me. No issues.

This guy is just a drama queen. The good news is that his shit posting will likely harm his sale rather than help it.

You can accept whatever payment you want.

For me, it's 2023 - Zelle, CashApp, Venmo, and PayPal are all ubiquitous money transfer apps. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with 7,000 in cash if I were to sell a machine. Do I put it under my mattress?...take it right back to my bank account on my own time? When I bought my first machine I had to withdraw from different ATMs on different days due to withdrawal limits and then had to travel 2+ hours with all this cash on my person, for what? Wire transfers require me to input a bunch of information and have fees. It's a digital world. Cash is for yard sales, strip clubs and drug dealers.

That’s all good and fine until someone pays via credit card and does a charge back on you. Worth the risk for a $20 transaction, but not worth it for $7k imo.

I was wrong after doing some more reading on the topic. I suppose it's a matter of risk tolerance and trust to complete the sale, buying a high value item is nerve racking for all parties

That's funny as hell!

I owned a cannabis retail shop in Alaska a few years ago. We weren't allowed to use any conventional banking.

So I had to go to my bank and take out $1,000 in small bills to make change for customers. The nosy bank teller asked me what all of this was for, which I was ready for, and I dead-panned my prepared answer: "Strippers and Cocaine." She just looked blankly at me, seemingly not sure what to do or say.

Then I laughed and told her it was a line from The Hangover --

"And six months ago, when Doug introduced me to you guys, I thought, "Wait a second, could it be?" And now I know for sure, I just added two more guys to my wolf pack. Four of us wolves, running around the desert together, in Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine."!

In Canada we have direct bank transfer. Anyone can send anyone else up to 3k per day with no chance of chargebacks and shit like that. I always thought it was available in the States and was shocked when I learned that it isn't. I heard from a developer that you guys are getting this service soon. I don't think very many Canadians use cash these days, even when dealing with strangers.