Big Game
Stern Electronics, 1980And so it begins! Putting all my pics here so others can benefit and follow along. This is my first playfield swap. Mistakes will be made. Haha
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chuckwurt!
chuckwurt!!
chuckwurt!!!
Quoted from JethroP:Let's see the playfield. What's wrong with it?
Not much IIRC but Big Game is probably his favorite game. There's not much wrong with mine either (ball swirls in the white and some very minor insert wear) and I plan on swapping it to the Fantastic pinball one as well..... in the future, when I have copious free time (ha!) (this funny because I have 2 PF swaps in progress now, one for about 10 years, and the other for about 2 years..... need to finish those.....)
Quoted from JethroP:Let's see the playfield. What's wrong with it?
It looked at me wrong.
Quoted from chuckwurt:And this one talked dirty to me. [quoted image][quoted image]
Yeah those inserts on the cards make me feel a little tingly inside.
First lesson learned:
If you bought the awesome table top rotisserie from Bill Dent (pindoc restorations), follow the instrustions carefully if you bought the add on sliders. They are great for securing the playfield to the rotisserie, but make sure and put those on the playfield with the cross bar together. Then put that all on the rotisserie and put all the parts back on that hold the cross bar on!
IMG_0754 (resized).jpegLots of progress tonight! I hate those carriage bolts they used on these games for some of the posts.
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1. How come some of your posts are green? Was that factory?
2. Are you/Have you gotten new rails?
Quoted from Coyote:Two questions!
1. How come some of your posts are green? Was that factory?
2. Are you/Have you gotten new rails?
1. They are all green except for the ones I couldn’t get off when I swapped them out for green. Red is stock.
2. Yep. Reese rails and they are green too.
Quoted from chuckwurt:2. Yep. Reese rails and they are green too.
Nice. Was thinking about this whenever I get my new PF in. I like their color there.
Your old playfield is so much better than my current playfield, let alone your new one. Color me green with envy.
Keep up the good work. Can't wait to see how it turns out. That said, an irrational part of me is afraid a new playfield, no matter how meticulous one is (and I am not), will never play as well as the original.
Mike
Right there with you! That’s why I’m not replacing any mechs. I’ve updating my mechs over the years and everything plays great. I’m hoping that with only changing the playfield, it plays great still, just looks better. The old playfield will go on my wall for the rest of its days.
More progress yesterday!
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I'm about to tackle my first complete cabinet restoration and playfield swap on a Taxi and I've already learned something from you - I need to take a hell of a lot more detailed pictures!
Good luck!
And then take MORE after that!
A nice upgrade is the plastic pop rings as used in the newer games retrofit into the older ones gives a better pop.... or you can swap coils too.
Quoted from slochar:A nice upgrade is the plastic pop rings as used in the newer games retrofit into the older ones gives a better pop.... or you can swap coils too.
I gave away my last set and I don’t think they make them anymore.
Quoted from chuckwurt:I gave away my last set and I don’t think they make them anymore.
swinks has them
Quoted from ita47:Are the oranges on your new playfield a little more red than your original playfield?
Yep. Totally red. Red orange at best.
Wire harness off! Now to start putting the power braid and GI sockets on the new playfield.
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Yeah thats the way they they came out.
I wish he would adjust the colors a little, looks like he did a great job. I just don’t understand colors being off that much and not fixing it. The Flash Gordon playfield CPR has the orange is messed up on it too. Instead of orange it is a pinkish red. I wouldn’t think it would be that hard with a digital print but I don’t know anything about it.
Thanks for sharing your swap, I always enjoy this type of thread. I have several in cue that I need to do.
Quoted from chuckwurt:Yeah I don’t care. It’s different, but also way nicer. I don’t need it to be exact.
Oh I agree, my original isn't in very good shape and I will probably end up getting one of these as well.
Quoted from ita47:I wish he would adjust the colors a little...I just don’t understand colors being off that much and not fixing it.
That's just how CPR operates. They're pretty non apologetic aboot it and go on their way ("thats the way the donor we got was"). The first batch of FG had a weird black mark on all of them.
Hell, When they first did Catacombs they had wrong colored inserts. 
Quoted from TheLaw:That's just how CPR operates. They're pretty non apologetic aboot it and go on their way ("thats the way the donor we got was"). The first batch of FG had a weird black mark on all of them.
Hell, When they first did Catacombs they had wrong colored inserts.
Exactly, I haven't been very impressed with my purchases from CPR and don't care for their attitude about it either. I have one of the silk screened Meteor playfields and they left text off and one of the drop target openings is too small. It looks to me like with digital printing that everyone is doing now, I would think adjusting the colors to get it right would be pretty easy. Oh well at least we have reproduction options I guess.
Quoted from chuckwurt:These green rails are great. [quoted image]
Love the color on those rails, do you know what it is?
Quoted from ita47:Love the color on those rails, do you know what it is?
No idea on the color TaylorVA made them. Not sure if he’s still doing rails or not.
Taking a little break this weekend. Up in Girard at Past Times Arcade for some fun and a mega matchplay tournament tomorrow. Watch on neopinball on twitch starting Saturday at 11am eastern!!
Quoted from ita47:Exactly, I haven't been very impressed with my purchases from CPR and don't care for their attitude about it either. I have one of the silk screened Meteor playfields and they left text off and one of the drop target openings is too small. It looks to me like with digital printing that everyone is doing now, I would think adjusting the colors to get it right would be pretty easy. Oh well at least we have reproduction options I guess.
Well actually…
This is one of my playfields. I take the feedback from the clients quite seriously. There are variations between factory playfields and I tweek the reproductions done in each batch based on what I am told. You want an orange in that color layer? No problem. Next batch will have more orange and less red.
Also, anyone doing a playfield swap should consider sending their old playfield back to me for recycling. I am happy to sand them down and reprint them.
Totally missed this post!!! Congrats on diving in, you beat me to it, I borrowed a rotisserie from a friend weeks ago and haven't gotten to it, consider me inspired!!! Good luck on your journey! PF looks great in your lineup btw.
Quoted from TheLaw:They get tight in there but the closer the easier![quoted image]
I’m just leaving my PCB boards I added years ago with the twist in sockets. Should save me some time.
Quoted from chuckwurt:I’m just leaving my PCB boards I added years ago with the twist in sockets. Should save me some time.
I'm doing the same thing because I already bought the PCB boards, but I will use yopp's on the rest of the inserts.
Quoted from FantasticPinball:Well actually…
This is one of my playfields. I take the feedback from the clients quite seriously. There are variations between factory playfields and I tweek the reproductions done in each batch based on what I am told. You want an orange in that color layer? No problem. Next batch will have more orange and less red.
Also, anyone doing a playfield swap should consider sending their old playfield back to me for recycling. I am happy to sand them down and reprint them.
Good to know!
When wiring up the GI lights. Make sure the wire braid is going to the same terminals. I didn’t think of this, but got lucky and didn’t make any mistakes. One terminal is the bottom tab and the other is connected right to the socket. I believe as long as both are daisy chained to their like terminals throughout, you’re good. Anyone please correct me if I’m wrong.
IMG_1013 (resized).jpegQuoted from chuckwurt:I believe as long as both are daisy chained to their like terminals throughout, you’re good.
Electrically since the G.I. lamps run AC the connections don't matter. But it is more professional to keep them alike the way you're doing. Thumbs up!
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