They have 3 games in development. Based on rumors it seems:
1) The Matrix
2) Harry Potter
3) ???
In no specific order but curious if there are any other rumors around 3. Or even what would be a well suited theme for them.
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Quoted from ZombiePartie:They have 3 games in development. Based on rumors it seems:
1) The Matrix
2) Harry Potter
3) ???
In no specific order but curious if there are any other rumors around 3. Or even what would be a well suited theme for them.
JJP Muppets is still out there. It's the only game from that leak a long time ago that was right about everything years in advance. Muppets is the only thing on that list that didn't happen. It's been so long I think it's a dead project, but it is still unresolved one way or another.
Rockford, IL
Quoted from PinMonk:JJP Muppets is still out there. It's the only game from that leak a long time ago that was right about everything years in advance. Muppets is the only thing on that list that didn't happen. It's been so long I think it's a dead project, but it is still unresolved one way or another.
Don't be so sure...
Quoted from ZombiePartie:They have 3 games in development. Based on rumors it seems:
1) The Matrix
2) Harry Potter
3) ???
In no specific order but curious if there are any other rumors around 3. Or even what would be a well suited theme for them.
bb555 (resized).pngQuoted from Haymaker:Don't be so sure...
statler-and-waldorf-argue-about muppets pinball.gifQuoted from PinMonk:JJP Muppets is still out there. It's the only game from that leak a long time ago that was right about everything years in advance. Muppets is the only thing on that list that didn't happen. It's been so long I think it's a dead project, but it is still unresolved one way or another.
Muppets, no thanks.
3 weeks later
Surrey, BC
Quoted from chad:6 months since the release of Elton John, maybe a new game tease from JJP.
EJ CE is on.thr line so don't expect a new game announcement until summer-ish or fall.
Quoted from Haymaker:I don't think the Matrix is next
What do you think is next?
Would be a rare insta buy for me for Matrix.
Quoted from Haymaker:I don't think the Matrix is next
Good. Hopefully they take their time and take it to the 10's.
Quoted from BobT:What do you think is next?
Would be a rare insta buy for me for Matrix.
I think Mark Seiden has secretly been working on Muppets this entire time....
Quoted from Jagrmaister:Good. Hopefully they take their time and take it to the 10's.
…all the way to 11
Quoted from BobT:…all the way to 11
Speaking of 11, played Spinal Tap today. Horrible.
The real question for me is not who is doing it but will EJ mark a new level of responsibility quality (loose term) with JJP. There is just something about EJ that feels so different than current Stern or even other recent JJP.
If they can keep that “it” they achieved with EJ and apply it to the Matrix, yeah, I will instantly buy it. Really wish we could get a solid confirmation or reveal soon.
Quoted from Haymaker:Just so its clear, if Matrix is next, then Steve isn't doing it. Mark's game is next.
If he's really doing Muppets, that's a real problem for $12k LE or $15k CE. 4th sales volume fail in a row? JJP needs to adjust the price or the themes. This isn't working.
Quoted from Haymaker:Just so its clear, if Matrix is next, then Steve isn't doing it. Mark's game is next.
Would that be a good or bad thing?
JJPs have always been overpriced under warrantied crap.
I don't think they are smart enough to understand "priced to sell" options.
Quoted from Zitt:JJPs have always been overpriced under warrantied crap.
I don't think they are smart enough to understand "priced to sell" options.
I've never had a problem with JJP warranty claims. They supported WoZ 1.0 lighting issues for like 3 years for me. Got a replacement LCD on godfather that died. Sold me a spare "just in case" GnR playfield for half price. Various other issues, all well outside the "stated" 90 days were handled at no charge, same as Stern in my experience. I've heard overseas horror stories about JJP warranty support, but that's a different animal.
They're at least as good as Stern in my experience overall. Stern denying claims for raised inserts and heavy orange peel on recent releases with the "as designed" excuse is not cool and is a concerning direction.
Quoted from Zitt:You got the woz lighting fix for free? Under warranty?
Most of the 1.0 replacements (a LOT) for free and then the 2.0 kit for half off ~5 years out of warranty. Was fine with that.
So; The manufacturer designs a self-destructing electric design and then to get a proper fix; you are ok paying half of "retail" to fix an obvious design defect? JJP failed the customer by not properly validating the 1.0 design - shipping it... then forcing the customer to pay to fix their shipped defect.
No; I'm not ok with Stern's recent "copy" of JJPs unwarranted Playfield language. So you won't get any defense of that from me.
Simply put; JJP screws their customers with "overpriced under warrantied crap." If you believe differently; it's you putting head in sand and ignoring reality because you want to love the purchase you made.
Quoted from Zitt:So; The manufacturer designs a self-destructing electric design and then to get a proper fix; you are ok paying half of "retail" to fix an obvious design defect? JJP failed the customer by not properly validating the 1.0 design - shipping it... then forcing the customer to pay to fix their shipped defect.
No; I'm not ok with Stern's recent "copy" of JJPs unwarranted Playfield language. So you won't get any defense of that from me.
Simply put; JJP screws their customers with "overpriced under warrantied crap." If you believe differently; it's you putting head in sand and ignoring reality because you want to love the purchase you made.
I have purchased plenty of regular consumer goods with designs that were "not properly validated" and failed some years after the warranty. None of those companies were giving me the time of day if I inquired about free or reduced-cost replacement 5 years later. A ton of free 1.0 boards for years and a big discount on a 2.0 set 5 years after warranty (which reduced to like a couple hundred bucks after I sold my 1.0 boards) was in the "good enough" column for me. Stern and JJP warranties leave a lot to be desired, but overall I've done ok with both companies. The insert and playfield issues with Stern currently that they say are "normal" and won't replace are generally the only thing I'm pissed about. That said, I've seen some of the recent Stern playfield lottery losers that have done much worse, sooo...
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Quoted from Zitt:So; The manufacturer designs a self-destructing electric design and then to get a proper fix; you are ok paying half of "retail" to fix an obvious design defect? JJP failed the customer by not properly validating the 1.0 design - shipping it... then forcing the customer to pay to fix their shipped defect.
No; I'm not ok with Stern's recent "copy" of JJPs unwarranted Playfield language. So you won't get any defense of that from me.
Simply put; JJP screws their customers with "overpriced under warrantied crap." If you believe differently; it's you putting head in sand and ignoring reality because you want to love the purchase you made.
Move on man!
Playfield problems corrected
Flipper problems corrected
Backglass lighting corrected
Code updates being corrected
Find a new gripe
Quoted from romulusx:Move on man!
Playfield problems corrected
Flipper problems corrected
Backglass lighting corrected
Code updates being corrected
Find a new gripe
Nope.
In no way has JJP corrected the underlying behavior of screwing the customer when they "correct" things.
Also; I don't see any confirmation for SEVERAL games that things are really fixed. History has show that "corrections" aren't really corrections.
That said; This person can't and won't be trusting JJP to provide him with a game because of this history of screwing the customer with an inferior product at premium prices.
Quoted from Zitt:So; The manufacturer designs a self-destructing electric design and then to get a proper fix; you are ok paying half of "retail" to fix an obvious design defect? JJP failed the customer by not properly validating the 1.0 design - shipping it... then forcing the customer to pay to fix their shipped defect.
No; I'm not ok with Stern's recent "copy" of JJPs unwarranted Playfield language. So you won't get any defense of that from me.
Simply put; JJP screws their customers with "overpriced under warrantied crap." If you believe differently; it's you putting head in sand and ignoring reality because you want to love the purchase you made.
JJP learned a lesson with woz. Quality over technology. Tesla has it backwards.
Quoted from Zitt:Nope.
In no way has JJP corrected the underlying behavior of screwing the customer when they "correct" things.
Also; I don't see any confirmation for SEVERAL games that things are really fixed. History has show that "corrections" aren't really corrections.
That said; This person can't and won't be trusting JJP to provide him with a game because of this history of screwing the customer with an inferior product at premium prices.
I’ve got a sneaky suspicion you’ll not change your point of view lol
Has there been 3 or more consecutive releases without a quality problem being passed on to the customer?
Quoted from Zitt:Has there been 3 or more consecutive releases without a quality problem being passed on to the customer?
EJ,GF and TS4 had no playfield issues and very few complaints about quality.Noted improvements stronger flippers and code updates coming soon!Not too much to complain about unless your just butt hurt with JJP for some reason?
Quoted from Zitt:Has there been 3 or more consecutive releases without a quality problem being passed on to the customer?
Has any pinball maker achieved this, ever?
Zitt just likes to bitch about everything, must be a pretty unhappy person. You're wasting your time arguing with him. This is the same guy that attacks FAST pinball, for who knows what reason (I am sure there isnt really one).
Arguing with fanbois is fun... And you guys def fit the bill .
I'm not allowed to speak about that topic anymore... Don't take it to mean they or you one ... Just that it's out of bounds in this thread.
As to being unhappy... If it makes you feel better thinking that. Ok.
Quoted from Zitt:Arguing with fanbois is fun... And you guys def fit the bill .
I'm not allowed to speak about that topic anymore... Don't take it to mean they or you one ... Just that it's out of bounds in this thread.
As to being unhappy... If it makes you feel better thinking that. Ok.
Wow I’m not sure what you just wrote there lol
Quoted from Roostking:Matrix 1 0r nothing. TS4???
The entire trilogy (first three) wouldn't be bad but definitely not number four by itself.
Quoted from Gubbin:After seeing and playing Elton John Im going to take a 2nd mortgage if they make The Matrix
Ok yes that is exciting to think about. Light show gonna be wild.
Quoted from romulusx:and code updates coming soon!
Yeah I’ll just go ahead and believe that when I see it.
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