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Data East Star Wars audio speed way too fast

By GarrettP

67 days ago



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#1 67 days ago

So at first I thought the audio itself was running at like 4x speed, but I believe it's actually queuing the audio too fast; Kenobi's "May the force be with you" isn't higher or faster, but the music behind it sounds like it took some uppers. My current theories are:
1. An issue with the clock
2. Somebody replaced a RAM chip with a faster speed chip?
3. An issue with the audio processor

Any ideas would be helpful. Has anyone seen this before? Thanks.

-Garrett

#2 67 days ago

Let's see a video of the behavior.

You can cross "faster RAM" off the list.
RAM is rated to perform at a particular speed.
It doesn't drive a speed. It responds to a speed.
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#3 65 days ago

Thanks for the quick response Chris. Here's a video:


Thanks.

#5 65 days ago

Very interesting.
Has the game always been like this or did it just start exhibiting this behavior?
Can you also post a video of the sound test. I'm uncertain which sounds it makes during sound test, but The Simpsons has several music samples that it plays.

Chris

#6 65 days ago

Ok,
1. Apparently it was working and on the floor at some point before my time, but no documentation of issue.
2. I can't get into a sound test, even though the manual says it's there, it jumps from Burn in Test straight to Speaker Test. The audio is looping fast in the background in every menu except when I run a Burn in Test; things got real low and crunchy.
3.The only playfield issue I can see is that the bar motor is stuck down, but I unplugged it and all it's corresponding switches and that didn't effect anything,
4. I reseated all socketed chips and noticed that PIN 19 of the CN21 ribbon cable on the CPU BOARD was bent out from contact with the connector. When I tried to straighten it, it immediately broke off. Also PIN 20 was missing. CN21 connects to CN1 on the AUDIO BOARD. Pin 19 is marked as 'E' on the schematics and pin 20 (which was gone) was marked as 'N.C.'. I'm assuming that's normally closed, and is E emitter?
5. I figured I'd try a reboot and now it plays the 1st 15 seconds of audio, cuts out for 30 seconds, and then audio comes back in.


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#7 65 days ago

This is normal. The pin is 19 is "missing" on all DE MPU boards.
Re: Pin 20, it is normally present, but isn't connected to anything so being missing shouldn't be an issue.

https://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php/Data_East/Sega#Missing_or_Broken_Pins_on_the_MPU-to-Sound_Connector

Thanks for the videos thus far.
It is still tough to make sense of what is going on.
One more video might help...game play.
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#8 65 days ago

Sounds good. Thanks for your input on this Chris. Both my flippers are out, and I won't be back here to address it until Tuesday, so I'll try to post some gameplay then. Thanks again.
-Garrett

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